..some Medjugorje memes to objectify the intemperate hype...
....amen
Thursday, 27 February 2014
Sunday, 23 February 2014
VATICAN VERDICT MEDJUGORJE.....
VATICAN VERDICT MEDJUGORJE FORTHCOMING....
..in the meantime here are some amusing Medjugorje Memes to quell the suspense...
...amen
Saturday, 22 February 2014
MEDJUGORJE & AUTHORITY
MEDJUGORJE and AUTHORITY
..let us Pray for Our Brother's and Sisters that they may find the reason which guides their affections to will the good that we may be united in charity and justice .....amen
Contributors
Contributors: About Me
john konnor
john konnor
I am a Catholic of
good conscience who amid the spiritual noise and intemperance rashness and anti
virtuous confusion of the Phenomenon of Medjugorje through reasonable diligence
and by the norms of the Church seeks to provide a sensible counter balanced discernment
in cogency with the mind of the Church which Jesus founded through the
traditions of his apostles..
......just like Elijah
at the cave I seek to hear the voice of God not in the noise of the wind which
is the ever changing mercurial views of the people enslaved by curiosity nor in
the earthquake which is meant to mean the spirit of sin which comes from the
prince of the earth who is the Devil nor in the fire which is intemperance and
imprudence (rashness) but in the still small voice of spiritual contemplation which
is characterized by humility and trust and walking the ways of the Gospel of Christ
by taking up his cross and forgetting the self....amen
24 Then Jesus said to his disciples: If any man will come after me, let
him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
---Matthew 16:24 (Douay Rheims)
….”And He proposes this doctrine, not to His disciples only, but in
common to the whole world, saying, "If any man will," that is, if
woman, if man, if king, if free, if slave; there are three things mentioned;
"let him deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me."”
--Chrys:(St. Thomas, Catena Aurea (The
Golden Chain) Gospel of St. Matthew 16,
Lectio 6.
….”Hilary: We are to follow our Lord by
taking up the cross of His passion; and if not in deed, yet in will, bear Him
company.”
(Ibid)
…..to follow not only in deed but in WILL
is the key and by ignoring the will of the Bishop at Medjugorje we do not bear
Christ company since the good Bishop
bears no parity in character to the hands of the Sanhedrin or the hands of
Pilate or the hands of the Centurions
yet Christ submitted himself calmly in obedience to these unjust judges how
much should we at MEDJUGORJE submit ourselves to the Good Bishop yet the proponents
of Medjugorje do not see this and through their disobedience feel they are
doing God a great service which is a tragedy at best …..amen
Monday, 17 February 2014
MEDJUGORJE & AUTHORITY
DE HERETICO COMBURENDO???..Regarding the heretic who is to be burnt...
...at one time it would have been Auto-Da-Fe'...now it's a world-wide following...
..with a mansion in the U.S.A.....
...thank you so much Michael Voris...
..watch the other informative piece here..
...amen
Sunday, 16 February 2014
MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS' VERDICT....
MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS' RULING....THE CALUMNY CHAPEL OF MEDJUGORJE
......Calumny.......
-Calumny of Apelles, Sandro Boticelli Circa 1495
....commentary on the painting....
On the right of the painting sits Midas with very large ears, extending his hand to Slander while she is still at some distance from him. Near him, on one side, stand two women—Ignorance and Suspicion. On the other side, Slander (Calumny) is coming up, a woman beautiful beyond measure, but full of malignant passion and excitement, evincing as she does fury and wrath by carrying in her left hand a blazing torch and with the other dragging by the hair a young man who stretches out his hands to heaven and calls the gods to witness his innocence. She is conducted by a pale ugly man who has piercing eye and looks as if he had wasted away in long illness; he represents envy. There are two women in attendance to Slander, one is Fraud and the other Conspiracy. They are followed by a woman dressed in deep mourning, with black clothes all in tatters—she is Repentance. At all events, she is turning back with tears in her eyes and casting a stealthy glance, full of shame, at Truth, who is slowly approaching.
-Lucian (On Calumny)
Calumny
Latin: (Calvor, to use artifice, to deceive)
“Etymologically any form of ruse or fraud employed to deceive another, particularly in judicial proceedings. In its more commonly accepted signification it means the unjust damaging of the good name of another by imputing to him a crime or fault of which he is not guilty. The sin thus committed is in a general sense mortal, just as is detraction..... Objectively, a calumny is a mortal sin when it is calculated to do serious harm to the person so traduced. Just as in the instance of wrongful damage to person or estate, so the calumniator is bound to adequate reparation for the injury perpetrated by the blackening of another's good name. He is obliged (1) to retract his false statements, and that even though his own reputation may necessarily as a consequence suffer. (2) He must also make good whatever other losses have been sustained by the innocent party as a result of his libellous utterances, provided these same have been in some measure (in confuso) foreseen by him. In canon law the phrase juramentum calumniae is employed to indicate the oath taken by the parties to a litigation, by which they averred that the action was brought and the defence offered in good faith.”
-Catholic Encyclopedia
..we see that in MEDJUGORJE serious harm has been meted upon the Authoritative character of two good Bishops at Mostar since many in the clergy as well as the lay faithful have openly ignored his directives....which is to desist from attributing any supernatural character to these messages...and to submit all messages to him.. the current 4th commission had not abrogated his authority on the matter & it is the Bishop’s canonical duty to guide the faithful and many have willfully ignored this duty to comply...thus spreading scandal in the Church and leading many to complicit membership of the CALUMNY CHAPEL OF MEDJUGORJE...
-Taking of Christ, Caravaggio 1602
..now if one is objective and uses reason along with faith in the articles and laws of the Church one is able if guided by Counsel (prudence or the execution of right reason guided by the HOLY SPIRIT)..one will see that the sin of detraction and calumny is being committed against the good BISHOP of Mostar as well as his predecessor....since many proponents of MEDJUGORJE willfully claim that he has never had any authority but only personal opinion equivalent in measure to any lay person to discern these visions or to vanquish the promotion of such phenomenon as a supernatural occurrence....indeed this is no true..since according to the Canons of Church of which God is the first efficient formal cause we see it written...
Can. 375 §1. Bishops, who by divine institution succeed to the place of the Apostles through the Holy Spirit who has been given to them, are constituted pastors in the Church, so that they are teachers of doctrine, priests of sacred worship, and ministers of governance.
Can. 377 §1. The Supreme Pontiff freely appoints bishops or confirms those legitimately elected
...so one sees the Bishop is entrusted with the duty to govern the faithful with whom he is entrusted...the Pope has appointed such Bishop and so if one defies a Bishop they are defying the Supreme Pontiff indirectly....true Bishops who compel us to sin are not to be obeyed since this would fall out of the spiritual jurisdiction of their authority..however at MEDJUGORJE two good Bishops have never given anyone permission to sin through a directive....and so according to the law of the Church we are bound to obey....indeed until the results of the 4th commission are made public the faithful are bound by the Bishop’s ruling as well as the Zadar Commission of not to make any pilgrimage a validation of supernatural events which call for further study if necessary....
Indeed the apparition itself has calumniated the Bishop which is quite quite a pity...from the chronicles of the apparition one reads...
"On 19 06 1983, being present the visionaries Jakov, Marija and Ivica, Our Lady appeared. After having answered some questions about the sick, by herself began to talk about you, Excellency. These are the thoughts that she told me : Tell the Bishop that I seek a quick conversion from him towards the happenings in Medjugorje, before it is too late. May he accept these events with plenty of love, understanding and great responsibility. I want him to avoid creating conflicts between priests and to stop publicizing their negative behaviours.
The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Hercegovina. For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgement and the judgement of my Son await the Bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus.
The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Hercegovina. For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgement and the judgement of my Son await the Bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus.
...what judgement could the Virgin be speaking of since private revelations are never required for eternal salvation since they are not part of the deposit of faith and no one is obliged to believe...indeed the Virgin by making this statement is damaging the Bishops freedom and repudiating his fidelity to the doctrines of the Church...in effect she is saying he is a BAD Catholic....and so giving the faithful more fodder with which to defame his good character...
As well one reads.....
"26 April 1982 Monday
The bishop - she says – doesn’t possess a scrap of the true love of God for those two.
With regard to the bishop, Ivica and Ivan should be peaceful because he has placed a too heavy load on their shoulders, only to get rid of them. In fact, he has begun with the younger (friars) and then more and more forward [...] The bishop is not acting according to the will of God, and can do what he wants. But one day justice will be done, of the sort you haven’t seen for a long time. I will begin to slowly tidy all this and many Friars will be irradiated by a great happiness."
The bishop - she says – doesn’t possess a scrap of the true love of God for those two.
With regard to the bishop, Ivica and Ivan should be peaceful because he has placed a too heavy load on their shoulders, only to get rid of them. In fact, he has begun with the younger (friars) and then more and more forward [...] The bishop is not acting according to the will of God, and can do what he wants. But one day justice will be done, of the sort you haven’t seen for a long time. I will begin to slowly tidy all this and many Friars will be irradiated by a great happiness."
..now only God is the just judge...for Our Lady to read the breadth and depth of one’s soul in such a way is incorrect theologically speaking ...true we can judge whether a person has acted in a sinful manner but we cannot judge the content of the soul...by this statement Our Lady has caused many people to have a negative impression of the Bishop who is only doing his duty according to God’s Church which is no sin...it is calumnious for Our Lady to speak this way and as Pope Francis said recently in a homily..calumny is a device of the DEVIL....
“Calumny aims to destroy the work of God, and calumny comes from a very evil thing: it is born of hatred. And hate is the work of Satan. Calumny destroys the work of God in people, in their souls. Calumny uses lies to get ahead.” Be in no doubt, he said: “Where there is calumny, there is Satan himself."
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calumny-destroys-the-work-of-god-in-people
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calumny-destroys-the-work-of-god-in-people
-Pope Francis
..many good Catholics have been deceived by the spin doctors who promote MEDJUGORJE as a place where supernatural apparitions occur ..these are effectively bypassing the lawful agents of the Church....some do this through lack of prudence some do this knowingly and so incur greater guilt before God....
..now let us all examine ourselves through a spirit of honesty and simplicity so that we do not let the vice of the devil implant itself insidiously in our soul...amen
MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS & THE CALUMNY CHAPEL
MEDJUGORJE & THE
CALUMNY CHAPEL
....Calumny from the
Catholic Encyclopedia is defined as....
-Calumny of Apelles, Sandro Boticelli Circa 1495
Calumny
Latin: (Calvor, to use
artifice, to deceive)
“Etymologically any
form of ruse or fraud employed to deceive another, particularly in judicial
proceedings. In its more commonly accepted signification it means the unjust
damaging of the good name of another by imputing to him a crime or fault of
which he is not guilty. The sin thus committed is in a general sense mortal,
just as is detraction..... Objectively, a calumny is a
mortal sin when it is calculated to do serious harm to the person so traduced.
Just as in the instance of wrongful damage to person or estate, so the calumniator
is bound to adequate reparation for the injury perpetrated by the blackening of
another's good name. He is obliged (1) to retract his false statements, and
that even though his own reputation may necessarily as a consequence suffer.
(2) He must also make good whatever other losses have been sustained by the innocent
party as a result of his libellous utterances, provided these same have been in
some measure (in confuso) foreseen by
him. In canon law the phrase juramentum
calumniae is employed to indicate the oath taken by the parties to a
litigation, by which they averred that the action was brought and the defence
offered in good faith.”
-Catholic Encyclopedia
..we see that in MEDJUGORJE serious harm has been meted upon the
Authoritative character of two good Bishops at Mostar since many in the clergy
as well as the lay faithful have openly ignored his directives....which is to
desist from attributing any supernatural character to these messages...and to
submit all messages to him.. the current 4th commission had not abrogated his authority on the matter & indeed it is the Bishop’s canonical duty to guide the faithful and many had
willfully ignored this duty to comply...thus spreading scandal in the Church
and leading many to complicit membership of the CALUMNY CHAPEL OF MEDJUGORJE...
-Taking of Christ, Caravaggio 1602
..now if one is objective and uses reason along with faith in the
articles and laws of the Church one is able if guided by Counsel (prudence or the
execution of right reason guided by the HOLY SPIRIT)..one will see that the sin
of detraction and calumny is being committed against the good BISHOP of Mostar
as well as his predecessor....since many proponents of MEDJUGORJE willfully
claim that he has never had any authority but only personal opinion equivalent in measure to any lay person to discern these visions or to
vanquish the promotion of such phenomenon as a supernatural
occurrence....indeed this is no true..since according to the Canons of Church
of which God is the first efficient formal cause we see it written...
Can. 375 §1. Bishops, who by divine
institution succeed to the place of the Apostles through the Holy Spirit who
has been given to them, are constituted pastors in the Church, so that they are
teachers of doctrine, priests of sacred worship, and ministers of governance.
Can. 377 §1. The Supreme Pontiff freely
appoints bishops or confirms those legitimately elected
...so one sees the Bishop is entrusted with the duty to govern the
faithful with whom he is entrusted...the Pope has appointed such Bishop and so
if one defies a Bishop they are defying the Supreme Pontiff indirectly....true
Bishops who compel us to sin are not to be obeyed since this would fall out of
the spiritual jurisdiction of their authority..however at MEDJUGORJE two good
Bishops have never given anyone permission to sin through a directive....and so
according to the law of the Church we are bound to obey....indeed until the
results of the 4th commission are made public the faithful are bound
by the Bishop’s ruling as well as the Zadar Commission of not to make any
pilgrimage a validation of supernatural events which call for further study if
necessary....
Indeed the apparition itself has calumniated the Bishop which is quite
sad...from the chronicles of the apparition one reads...
"On 19 06 1983, being present the visionaries Jakov, Marija and Ivica, Our Lady appeared. After having
answered some questions about the sick, by herself began to talk about you,
Excellency. These are the thoughts that she told me : Tell the Bishop that I seek a quick conversion from him towards the
happenings in Medjugorje, before it is too late. May he accept these events
with plenty of love, understanding and great responsibility. I want him to
avoid creating conflicts between priests and to stop publicizing their negative
behaviours.
The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Hercegovina. For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgement and the judgement of my Son await the Bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus.
The Holy Father has given all bishops the duty to fulfill certain tasks in their respective dioceses. Among these, bishops are to solve problems and arguments. The bishop is the spiritual father of all the parishes in Hercegovina. For this reason I seek his conversion towards these events. I am sending my second-last warning. If what I seek does not come about, my judgement and the judgement of my Son await the Bishop. This means that he has not found the way to my Son Jesus.
...what judgement could the Virgin be speaking of since private
revelations are never required for eternal salvation since they are not part of
the deposit of faith and no one is obliged to believe...indeed the Virgin by
making this statement is damaging the Bishops freedom and repudiating his
fidelity to the doctrines of the Church...in effect she is saying he is a BAD
Catholic....and so giving the faithful more fodder with which to defame his
good character...
As well one reads.....
"26 April 1982 Monday
The bishop - she says – doesn’t possess a scrap of the true love of God for those two.
With regard to the bishop, Ivica and Ivan should be peaceful because he has placed a too heavy load on their shoulders, only to get rid of them. In fact, he has begun with the younger (friars) and then more and more forward [...] The bishop is not acting according to the will of God, and can do what he wants. But one day justice will be done, of the sort you haven’t seen for a long time. I will begin to slowly tidy all this and many Friars will be irradiated by a great happiness."
The bishop - she says – doesn’t possess a scrap of the true love of God for those two.
With regard to the bishop, Ivica and Ivan should be peaceful because he has placed a too heavy load on their shoulders, only to get rid of them. In fact, he has begun with the younger (friars) and then more and more forward [...] The bishop is not acting according to the will of God, and can do what he wants. But one day justice will be done, of the sort you haven’t seen for a long time. I will begin to slowly tidy all this and many Friars will be irradiated by a great happiness."
..now only God is the just judge...for Our Lady to read the breadth and
depth of one’s soul in such a way is incorrect theologically speaking ...true
we can judge whether a person has acted in a sinful manner but we cannot judge
the content of the soul...by this statement Our Lady has caused many people to
have a negative impression of the Bishop who is only doing his duty according
to God’s Church which is no sin...it is calumnious for Our Lady to speak this
way and as Pope Francis said recently in a homily..calumny is a device of the
DEVIL....
“Calumny aims to destroy the
work of God, and calumny comes from a very evil thing: it is born of hatred.
And hate is the work of Satan. Calumny destroys the work of God in people, in
their souls. Calumny uses lies to get ahead.” Be in no doubt, he said: “Where
there is calumny, there is Satan himself."
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calumny-destroys-the-work-of-god-in-people
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calumny-destroys-the-work-of-god-in-people
-Pope Francis
..many good Catholics have been deceived by the spin doctors who
promote MEDJUGORJE as a place where supernatural apparitions occur ..these are
effectively bypassing the lawful agents of the Church....some do this through
lack of prudence some do this knowingly and so incur greater guilt before
God....
..now let us all examine ourselves through a spirit of honesty and
simplicity so that we do not let the vice of the devil implant itself
insidiously in our soul...amen
Friday, 14 February 2014
MEDJUGORJE MADNESS POPE FRANCIS AND THE VATICAN COMMISSION RULING
MEDJUGORJE MADNESS
..................... link: http://new.livestream.com/churchmilitanttv/events/2762001
...amen
..................... link: http://new.livestream.com/churchmilitanttv/events/2762001
...amen
MEDJUGORJE MADNESS WITH MICHAEL VORIS AND E. MICHAEL JONES
MEDJUGORJE MADNESS
..................... link: http://new.livestream.com/churchmilitanttv/events/2762001
...amen
..................... link: http://new.livestream.com/churchmilitanttv/events/2762001
...amen
ANSWERS TO CRITICISMS OF MEDJUGORJE: A REBUTTAL
A rebuttal of answers
to criticisms of MEDJUGORJE
It is normal for
prudent people to be wary of false prophets....some believe that Mary is truly
appearing in Medjugorje and this is imprudent..since the Church and qualified
Bishops have studied the phenomenon and found that the supernaturality of the
alleged apparitions cannot be affirmed...to believe in variance to the mind of the Church is quite simply putting one’s
salvation in jeopardy by opening one’s intellect to the possibility of dodgy
doctrine...and so a little poison taints the whole supply since all truth which
comes from God is pure..so a small bit of leaven from the Pharisees will
destroy ones faith..as it says in scripture..
14
Now they had forgotten to bring bread; and they had only one loaf with them in
the boat. 15 And he cautioned them, saying, "Take heed, beware of the
leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod." 16 And they discussed it
with one another, saying, "We have no bread." 17 And being aware of
it, Jesus said to them, "Why do you discuss the fact that you have no
bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened?
-Mark 8:14-17
..what Jesus means is we should beware of
the faith of the Pharisees and of Herod who relied on their own counsel rather
than relying on the will of God…now the will of God resides in his Church and
in his magisterium who act through accepted Church teaching and who guide us
through directives that are not sinful or impossible to follow…so we see in
Medjugorje two Bishops as well as a Bishops conference have already said
nothing supernatural occurring regarding apparitions…this is not to say the
sacraments are bringing forth good fruit yet the deception is polluting the
faith of the converts since they believe the authority of the Bishops does not
come from God but is only arbitrary..rather like anyone’s personal opinion and
this is the poison of Medjugorje…latitudinarianism..which is a sort of
restricted indifferentism closely related to Protestantism..it is a material
heresy
..here are some accusations which this
article would like to buttress….
1.
Medjugorje is the work of the devil
...it is certainly possible for Satan to
deceive..so let us look if there are signs of deception...
-
Eucharist: This is the body of Christ ....why would the Devil ask us to receive
his enemy?....answer....to promote millions of sacrilegious communions which do
not promote unity within the Church and which are in open defiance of the good
Bishop’s supplications to cease from public veneration of the alleged
apparition...
[26]
For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew
the death of the Lord, until he come. [27]
Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or
drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28]
But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29]
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to
himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30]
Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.
---1 Corinthians
11:26-30 Douay Rheims
..so one sees we
need examine ourselves thoroughly through a strict examination of conscience..always
with a view to unity of the Church through Charity…
Confession: ..this is a chance for us to undo the sins
that we were tempted into by Satan, why would Satan get us to undo his
work?...answer...Satan does not mind if we receive communion in a sacrilegious
manner and confession our sins while still defying the Church and promoting
Medjugorje as a place with supernatural visions..this is disobedient and a sin
against prudence..and so our trips to the sacraments are subverted by obexes
(obstacles) to grace..namely disrespect for the magisterium (sin against the 4th
commandment) honouring your father and mother spiritually as well as
temporally...and since the commandments are set up so that if we break one we
break all of them since they are all based in charity, faith and hope we
effectively subvert the Church when we break them and open ourselves up to
being set into a state of grave sin which we should avoid.....while if one does
this unknowingly then the guilt of complicity falls upon those who promote
medjugorje as a safe place to visit and claim the mother of God is appearing
here which is in opposition to the official Church .....
Reading the Bible: This is our guide for Christian living, it is
totally against Satan....answer...even the Devil can quote scripture and
pervert it to his own ends..as we see when the Devil tempts Jesus in Matthew
4..as well in Genesis 3 the Devil quotes scripture out of context as we see
many people doing who espouse Medjugorje...
Peace: since
when does the devil promote peace...answer..the devil does not promote peace at
MEDJUGORJE he promotes concord of wills diametrically opposed to the
magisterium of the Church...
….There can be concord in evil between wicked
men. But "there is no peace to the wicked" (Isaiah 48:22).
Therefore peace is not the same as concord….
-thomas Aquinas
..since many
people gather at this place in agreement of one cause albeit in defiance of the
one who sits as the arbitrator and so acts by the will of God we see this is
not peace but only the gathering of rebel wills…it is rebellion and this has as
its root pride which is the sin of satan…
Fasting:.
Fasting is a way of heightening our awareness. Take
the exact opposite, having eaten too much. Most of us have had that bloated
feeling at some time or another: and my, how it affects us! We feel dull,
lethargic, sluggish. Awareness can be dulled by many kinds of over-indulgence,
not only food, but also alcohol and even being slumped for too long in front of
the TV. Fasting is a way of restoring the balance. A little bit of self-denial
can open us up to God, by making us more aware, more alert, as we move through
life. Open, in fact, to our own depths, where God is often to be found, in the
silences and in the questioning that we usually keep away by another bar of
chocolate, another film or another beer. Fasting challenges us to find a
discipline again, in which these things are held in a more healthy balance. Why
would Satan want us to open ourselves up to God ?....answer.....fasting without obedience to God’s
will is like the leaven of the Pharisees it subverts the faith of God which we
have been given and this is what the devil loves...we never look to the Church
to guide us..we look to ourselves while we use the Church to make us look pious
in an outward way by attending the sacraments..while inwardly we are not
mortifying our will..and so this is the spirituality of the Pharisee....which
Jesus warns us to ignore...
2..Anyone can claim to see our
Lady, how can we prove these apparitions are really happening?
..answer...we can trust the Zadar commission and the judgement of two
local Ordinaries...it cannot be ascertained that anything supernatural is occurring....
as Jesus says a good tree produces good fruit and a bad tree bad fruit...as Aquinas
tells us...
Article 1. Whether good can be the cause of evil?
Objection 1. It would seem that good cannot be the cause of evil. For it is said (Matthew 7:18): "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit."
Reply to
Objection 1. As Augustine says (Contra
Julian. i): "The Lord calls an evil will
the evil tree, and a good will
a good tree."
Now, a good will
does not produce a morally bad act,
since it is from the good
will itself that a moral
act is judged to
be good. Nevertheless
the movement itself of an evil
will is caused by the rational
creature, which is good;
and thus good is the cause of evil.
..now thousands
of pilgrims to medjugorje who make their pilgrimage a validation of the
supernaturality of the alleged appairitons at Medjugorje have a will inclined
to evil which is the bad tree Jesus was referring to..since all these pilgrims
choose either knowingly or unknowingly to go against the Churches decree of not
allowing private pilgrimages which attempt to validate these apparitions as
coming from the mother of God…according to a may 1998 letter written by
Cardinal Bertone to Bishop Aubry…
….” Finally, as regards pilgrimages to Medjugorje,
which are conducted privately, this Congregation points out that they are
permitted on condition that they are not regarded as an authentication of
events still taking place and which still call for an examination by the
Church. Letter to Bishop Aubrey”..
…which means we cannot
assume the virgin is appearing here and promote this publicly….which is also
the crux of the recent CDF letter to the USA Bishops…
….” It
follows, therefore, that clerics and the faithful are not permitted to
participate in meetings, conferences or public celebrations during which the
credibility of such "apparitions" would be taken for granted”..
.....which means we are not
allowed to promote these messages....publicly
3. Medjugorje has not been approved by the Church-I
should not be following it yet
...answer...yes
4. The visionaires priests and villagers only
wanted to bring people to Medjugorje to make money out of souvenirs and tourist
related ventures..
...answer....that is for God to judge the motivation of each person’s heart
5.Medjugorje
is a propaganda stunt...
..answer...one wonders what is
going through the minds of the seers..if they understand the importance of
submitting to the magisterium in order to make their claims more credible..if
this would have happened then peace would have ensued instead of all this
incessant quarrelling...
If
Medjugorje is fake why is Father Jozo still so dedicated to it despite the
torture and imprisonment he received from the communists?
..answer...he is rebelling
against the authority of the Bishop of Mostar & the Zadar Commission which
is the official judgement of the Church and so let anyone who has no cognitive
confirmation bias discern for themselves....
....amen
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