MEDJUGORJE DISOBEDIENCE: THE DUPLICITOUS MESSAGES OF GOSPA

MEDJUGORJE PILGRIMAGES: The DUPLICITOUS MESSAGE of GOSPA

..according to the seers the GOSPA of MEDJUGORJE has said ... Catholics of good conscience and people of all creeds are called to conversion of heart, prayer and fasting...practical prayer as well as a salutary disposition of soul and mind...fasting not only in a corporal sense but also fasting of the reason and desires..to exercise prudence and temperance..which of course we do not see at MEDJUGORJE since the proponents have failed to obey the Agency and agents of God in his Church ..the successors to the apostles...

...if one examines the messages more closely and uses the scriptures as a mirror of discernment along with the laws of love as they are evinced through the dogmas and traditions of the Church and the exhortations of the bishops in good standing we see that there are many contradictions...

April 25, 1994 "Dear children! Today I invite you to decide to pray according to my intention. Little children, I invite each one of you to help my plan to be realized through this parish. Now I invite you in a special way, little children, to decide to go along the way of holiness. Only this way will you be close to me. I love you and I desire to conduct you all with me to Paradise. But, if you do not pray and if you are not humble and obedient to the messages which I am giving you, I cannot help you. Thank you for having responded to my call."

..according to this message the GOSPA is instigating rebellion and insubordination to the local Ordinary( the Bishop)..as well as the Bishops of Zadar as well as the CDF ... it was the Bishop in good standing who has cautioned and indeed ordered that the dissemination of any messages be not made or attributed to the Mother of God... the Zadar Bishops and the CDF have concurred...indeed how is one to walk the paths of holiness if they have not the humility to trust the Shepherds of the Church..as well how can one reconcile the fact that the Gospa herself is contradicting an order of her Son...this order is to obey the Bishops who are not purveying any sinful decree...

[10]And thou shalt do whatsoever they shall say, that preside in the place, which the Lord shall choose, and what they shall teach thee,

[8] If thou perceive: Here we see what authority God was pleased to give to the church guides of the Old Testament, in deciding, without appeal, all controversies relating to the law; promising that they should not err therein; and surely he has not done less for the church guides of the New Testament.

[11]According to his law; and thou shalt follow their sentence: neither shalt thou decline to the right hand nor to the left hand. [12] But he that will be proud, and refuse to obey the commandment of the priest, who ministereth at that time to the Lord thy God, and the decree of the judge, that man shall die, and thou shalt take away the evil from Israel: [13] And all the people hearing it shall fear, that no one afterwards swell with pride

Deuteronomy 17:10-13

..so we see from scripture that defying a bishop in good standing provides an occaision of placing one’s soul in grave danger from spiritual death...

[20] Amen, amen I say to you, he that receiveth whomsoever I send, receiveth me; and he that receiveth me, receiveth him that sent me.

John 13:20

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. Whosoever is not just is not of God, or he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:10

....of course in order to be just one must be fair and give everyone their rightful due..and when we disrespect the wishes of a Shepherd of God the local Bishop then we are not practicing justice and equanimity...are we showing love to the local Bishop whose mission is to protect us from error when we proceed in a spirit of public disdain for his witness and ignore his pleas...

....as well we have the Catechism of the Church as a sure guide...

CCC 896, “Let all follow the bishop, as Jesus Christ follows his Father, and the college of presbyters as the apostles; respect the deacons as you do God's law. Let no one do anything concerning the Church in separation from the bishop."

....of course the Gospa wants all to follow her message but not to follow the advice of the local Bishop...or the advice of the Zadar Commission or the advice of the CDF who have told the faithful to stop presuming the credibility of any apparition publicly....

..this is just one message of thousands and in other mesages the GOSPA advises prayer for God’s priests however if one does not obey the priests and bishops and become a vehicle for God’s grace through practical prayer which is done by following an agent of God’s commands then prayer indeed does not actuate its full potential since obstinate supplicants thwart the efficacy of God’s grace...through obedience we attain unity....

As Thomas Aquinas wisely says...

It is clear that he does not pray, who, far from uplifting himself to God, requires that God shall lower Himself to him, and who resorts to prayer not to stir the man in us to will what God wills, but only to persuade God to will what the man in us wills.

..such people are viewed as fanatics who try to bend everyone to their whim rather than trying to accept each person for their deficiencies as God accepts us all..and to work to create unity of cause...indeed not all faithful are called to pray, fast, read the bible and go to mass every day...some do more some do less..however if we keep up with our obligations and live the law of love as Jesus says..to love one another as i have loved you..this is the chief commandment..a shortcut to heaven..indeed one must not neglect the sacraments however one is not required to pray, fast and attend confession (unless in a state of mortal sin) under a strict regime unless they are in a religious vocation....it is bewildering to watch as many proponents adopt a Pharisiacal attitude that they are more Holy since they pray and fast and Go to mass every day..however this is the spirit which Jesus rebukes...

..so we see adherents at MEDJUGORJE praying so that the Bishop change his stance and accept the messages of the GOSPA yet this is unwise and definately contrary to the will of God who exhorts us to be loving and kind and in humility submit to the advice of our spiritual Fathers who are not espousing sin....this is the type of fanaticism petulance and hypocrisy which makes all Chirstians look bad..indeed this type of attitude is an enemy to peace since such a one is still absorbed in their own prerogatives and not resigned to take up the cross and follow Christ..the cross of human suffering..indeed no one can carry Christ's cross yet we all can carry a small portion of it as the apostle exhorts us in the Gospel where he mentions ...

²⁴ Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:

Colossians 1:24

April 25, 1996 "Dear children! Today I invite you again to put prayer in the first place in your families. Little children, when God is in the first place, then you will, in all that you do, seek the will of God. In this way your daily conversion will become easier. Little children, seek with humility that which is not in order in your hearts, and you shall understand what you have to do. Conversion will become a daily duty that you will do with joy. Little children, I am with you, I bless you all and I invite you to become my witnesses by prayer and personal conversion. Thank you for having responded to my call."

..from another message we are purportedly told by the GOSPA to put GOD first...if we do not listen to his agents...the Bishops and the CDF then we are not explicitly putting GOD first..we are subjugating GOD to the urges of our own desires and our own will...and so the GOSPA herself is espousing a duplicitous spirituality which is not sincerely seeking unity....let us all examine ourselves through a spirit of contrition and by the principles of philia and agape love so that we may not be a slave to our own spiritually erotic desires ...let us strive for a rational love ...amen

MEDJUGORJE PILGRIMAGES: THE DUPLICITOUS MESSAGES of GOSPA

MEDJUGORJE PILGRIMAGES: The DUPLICITOUS MESSAGE of GOSPA

 

 

..according to the seers the GOSPA of MEDJUGORJE has said ... Catholics of good conscience and people of all creeds are called to conversion of heart, prayer and fasting...practical prayer as well as a salutary disposition of soul and mind...fasting not only in a corporal sense but also fasting of the reason and desires..to exercise prudence and temperance..which of course we do not see at MEDJUGORJE since the proponents have failed to obey the Agency and agents of God in his Church ..the successors to the apostles...

...if one examines the messages more closely and uses the scriptures as a mirror of discernment along with the laws of love as they are evinced through the dogmas and traditions of the Church and the exhortations of the bishops in good standing we see that there are many contradictions...

April 25, 1994 "Dear children! Today I invite you to decide to pray according to my intention. Little children, I invite each one of you to help my plan to be realized through this parish. Now I invite you in a special way, little children, to decide to go along the way of holiness. Only this way will you be close to me. I love you and I desire to conduct you all with me to Paradise. But, if you do not pray and if you are not humble and obedient to the messages which I am giving you, I cannot help you. Thank you for having responded to my call."

 

..according to this message the GOSPA is instigating rebellion and insubordination to the local Ordinary( the Bishop)..as well as the Bishops of Zadar as well as the CDF ... it was the Bishop in good standing who has cautioned and indeed ordered that the dissemination of any messages be not made or attributed to the Mother God of God... the Zadar Bishops and the CDF have concurred...indeed how is one to walk the paths of holiness if they have not the humility to trust the Shepherds of the Church..as well how can one reconcile the fact that the Gospa herself is contradicting an order of her Son...this order is to obey the Bishops who are not purveying any sinful decree...

[10] And thou shalt do whatsoever they shall say, that preside in the place, which the Lord shall choose, and what they shall teach thee,

[8] If thou perceive: Here we see what authority God was pleased to give to the church guides of the Old Testament, in deciding, without appeal, all controversies relating to the law; promising that they should not err therein; and surely he has not done less for the church guides of the New Testament.

[11] According to his law; and thou shalt follow their sentence: neither shalt thou decline to the right hand nor to the left hand. [12] But he that will be proud, and refuse to obey the commandment of the priest, who ministereth at that time to the Lord thy God, and the decree of the judge, that man shall die, and thou shalt take away the evil from Israel: [13] And all the people hearing it shall fear, that no one afterwards swell with pride

                                      Deuteronomy 17:10-13

                                          ..so we see from scripture that defying a bishop in good standing provides an occaision of placing one’s soul in grave danger from spiritual death...

[20] Amen, amen I say to you, he that receiveth whomsoever I send, receiveth me; and he that receiveth me, receiveth him that sent me.

John 13:20

 

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. Whosoever is not just is not of God, or he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:10

 

....of course in order to be just one must be fair and give everyone their rightful due..and when we disrespect the wishes of a Shepherd of God the local Bishop then we are not practicing justice and equanimity...are we showing love to the local Bishop whose mission is to protect us from error when we proceed in a spirit of public disdain for his witness and ignore his pleas...

....as well we have the Catechism of the Church as a sure guide...

 

CCC 896, “Let all follow the bishop, as Jesus Christ follows his Father, and the college of presbyters as the apostles; respect the deacons as you do God's law. Let no one do anything concerning the Church in separation from the bishop."

....of course the Gospa wants all to follow her message but not to follow the advice of the local Bishop...or the advice of the Zadar Commission or the advice of the CDF who have told the faithful to stop presuming the credibility of any apparition publicly....

..this is just one message of thousands and in other mesages the GOSPA advises prayer for God’s priests however if one does not obey the priests and bishops and become a vehicle for God’s grace through practical prayer which is done by following an agent of God’s commands then prayer indeed does not actuate its full potential since obstinate supplicants thwart the efficacy of God’s grace...through obedience we attain unity....

As Thomas Aquinas wisely says...

It is clear that he does not pray, who, far from uplifting himself to God, requires that God shall lower Himself to him, and who resorts to prayer not to stir the man in us to will what God wills, but only to persuade God to will what the man in us wills.

 

..such people are viewed as fanatics who try to bend everyone to their whim rather than trying to accept each person for their deficiencies as God accepts us all..and to work to create unity of cause...indeed not all faithful are called to pray, fast, read the bible and go to mass every day...some do more some do less..however if we keep up with our obligations and live the law of love as Jesus says..to love one another as i have loved you..this is the chief commandment..a shortcut to heaven..indeed one must not neglect the sacraments however one is not required to pray, fast and attend confession (unless in a state of mortal sin) under a strict regime unless they are in a religious vocation....it is bewildering to watch as many proponents adopt a Pharisiacal attitude that they are more Holy since they pray and fast and Go to mass every day..however this is the spirit which Jesus rebukes...

..so we see adherents at MEDJUGORJE praying so that the Bishop change his stance and accept the messages of the GOSPA yet this is unwise and definately contrary to the will of God who exhorts us to be loving and kind and  in humility submit to the advice of our spiritual Fathers who are not espousing sin....this is the type of fanaticism petulance and hypocrisy which makes all Chirstians look bad..indeed this type of attitude is an enemy to peace since such a one is still absorbed in their own prerogatives and not resigned to take up the cross and follow Christ..the cross of human suffering..indeed no one can carry Christ's cross yet we all can carry a small portion of it as the apostle exhorts us in the Gospel where he mentions ...

 

²⁴ Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:

Colossians 1:24

 

April 25, 1996 "Dear children! Today I invite you again to put prayer in the first place in your families. Little children, when God is in the first place, then you will, in all that you do, seek the will of God. In this way your daily conversion will become easier. Little children, seek with humility that which is not in order in your hearts, and you shall understand what you have to do. Conversion will become a daily duty that you will do with joy. Little children, I am with you, I bless you all and I invite you to become my witnesses by prayer and personal conversion. Thank you for having responded to my call."

 

..from another message we are  purportedly told by the GOSPA to put GOD first...if we do not listen to his agents...the Bishops and the CDF then we are not explicitly putting GOD first..we are subjugating GOD to the urges of our own desires and our own will...and so the GOSPA herself is espousing a duplicitous spirituality which is not sincerely seeking unity....let us all examine ourselves through a spirit of contrition and by the principles of philia and agape love so that we may not be a slave to our own spiritually erotic desires ...let us strive for a rational love ...amen

THE MEDJUGORJE MESSAGE

THE MEDJUGORJE MESSAGE : OUR LADY SPEAKS???

 

 

.......amen

MEDJUGORJE COMMISSION INFORMAL OFFICIAL STATUS: based on recent Pope Francis comments and CDF(USA) letter...

MEDJUGORJE COMMISSION INFORMAL OFFICIAL STATUS

 

 

 

                               ..........amen

SPIRIT OF MEDJUGORJE UPDATE: PATIENCE

SPIRIT OF MEDJUGORJE UPDATE: PATIENCE

.a good Christian life cannot be pursued without a regular examination of conscience and a good grounding in the virtues...

...virtues stem from the grace deposited in the ground of the soul by God..the root of all virtue is humility which is characterized by a patient and loving submission to authority...

...the stem of the virtues is Holy obedience which allows us to utilize the commands of God in daily life...

...the other virtues branch off this tree and allow our soul to become a verdant abode of God’s spirit (the Holy Spirit)....

..the virtues themselves may be divided into three categories..the theological, the intellectual and the moral...

..indeed Religion without Sacrifice is an enemy of virtue....if one has not mortified the reason through prudence and obedience to succesors of the apostles in good standing then they have practiced Religion without sacrificing their will and in the end no virtue can grow from the ground of the soul where God deposits grace..God does not deposit grace in the emotion or intellect if he did these would need to transcend themselves ...God deposits his grace in the ground of the soul where it cannot be felt..so we must exercise grace in order for virtue to grow from it...and in this way the fruits of grace will be felt through charity to our neighbour.... from the inside out not as we see in MEDJUGORJE from the outside in....this is how we hear the saying the kingdom of God is within,,since God works from the inside of the soul where we are made in his image and likeness..

...is is whythe devil works  through the emotions and feelings so we guard ourselves from such spiritual flushings since the devil can easily trick some into the belief they have had a  quasi "religious experience"..indeed this is all false since the devil cannot get inside as God can..so the devil will lure us with flushings and stirrings to get us to betray the reason and the tradition of the Church...and trust ourselves..this is how the devil scatters the flock indeed one of the devil's names is the one who scatters....from the Greek diabellein..is derived the word devil..since God and the Holy Spirit unify through charity  of course the devil is intent on casting apart and dividing the flock..however he does this subtly since he is a beguiler....

...attached to the the moral virtue of fortitude is the virtue of patience which disposes a soul to endure present evils so that such a one is not cast down or become crestfallen when crosses and tribulations arise...patience disposes a person to hope in the life of the world to come and so works as  a support for faith...without patience one cannot exercise faith since faith is concerned with the things unseen and the things to come...if one has not the patience to wait and persevere through the passing fates of the present then such a soul will falter in faith and become cold and intemperate..and since temperance is a custodian of all the virtues such a one will inevitably fall into unseemly habits such as overzealousness, fanaticism, extremism and spiritual gluttony...since without patience such a one will fail in charity by being unable to endure assaults and insults and injury since they will be quick to anger and querulous (quick to quarrel) with urges and desires...such a spirit is opposed to God since God is not quick to anger and  steadfast in love  and fidelity to all... as the scripture says...

[8] The Lord is gracious and merciful: patient and plenteous in mercy. [9] The Lord is sweet to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works. [10] Let all thy works, O lord, praise thee: and let thy saints bless thee.

Psalm 144:8-10, Douay Rheims

…as we see in MEDJUGORJE adherents are eager and curious and hungry for the next message from the GOSPA…they are impatient and do not exercise faith but turn devotions into chores rather than acts of faith…everything in such a spirituality is turned inside out..everything is done for themselves rather than for their neighbour..people go on long pilgrimage for their own good feelings and call these stirrings “graces”..yet they fail in charity to their neighbour since they do not pray for unity of cause of the Church but only long to save themselves..this is a contradiction to the message Jesus teaches in the Gospel….it is an entirely self-centred spirituality…it is a denial of faith hope and charity which are the three theological virtues…

[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. [44] Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [45] Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

Matthew 25:41-46, Douay Rheims

..let us all guard ourselves from spiritual gluttony so that we may not fail in charity to our neighbour…in the active life we must put ourselves at the disposal of our neighbour so that we become attentive to the needs of others rather than be turned in upon ourselves…being consumed with prayers and fasting yet being inattentive to the needs of the people we come in contact with on a daily basis sets us up for hypocrisy and in the end makes all Christians look bad..remember the devil inspires people to live outside their vocation so that a person who has specific talents for a certain vocation becomes inspired through deceits of the devil to cling to a station in life they are not suited…yet through pride they aim above their aspect…and this is a deception of the devil..in the spiritual life we should aim for balance not excess…

…what good is it if one fasts and prays but vilifies the traditions of the Church of Christ through mockery of two Bishops in good standing through public festivals which are unauthorized…indeed attending the sacraments is good but if one does not exercise charity to their neighbour the good is cancelled out by negligence and spiritual laziness..at MEDJUGORJE people just want to feel good yet they do not strive to carry the cross of Christ in obedience as Christ did….

Let us see what the humble and gentle saints say about the virtue of patience……

'Just as suffering and dishonor usually give birth to virtues, so pleasure and self-esteem usually give birth to vices.'

- St. Mark the Ascetic

'Patience is a companion to wisdom'

-St. Augustine

(as opposed to vain curiosity in visions and messages)

And we beseech you, brethren, rebuke the unquiet, comfort the feeble minded, support the weak, be patient towards all men

1 Thessalonians 5:14  (Douay Rheims bible)


........amen

MEDJUGORJE: THE DEVIL, THE FOOL & THE HANGED MAN

MEDJUGORJE: THE DEVIL THE FOOL & THE HANGED MAN

 

....The fool and the hanged man are both major arcane cards from the deck of Tarot whose author is the spirit of self or I or the Devil ..these cards depict stages of self discovery in our life’s journey..of course this is sorcery and condemned as error however the phenomenon at MEDJUGORJE contains many new age notions directly related to a theology of "feel-goodism," "universal tolerance," and "moral relativism."...and this is repugnant to a life of faith and the way of the cross which Jesus talks about in his Gospels..and since MEDJUGORJE is influenced by an occult hegemony we see many similarities between the psychology of the Tarot symbolism and the spirituality seen in MEDJUGORJE...

 

 

..so we draw the parallel between the fool who seeks to know by his own frail light of a fallen nature and the the devil who is an enemy of the true Church and the hanged man who lives for himself..a morally relative truth is his guide... and whose course of action is unconventional and never untrue to itself..a selfish spirituality which sacrifices only for some private benefit this is an enemy to true charity which lives for the Church of Christ...

 

..Card zero or the beginning of life or the spiritual journey or false conversion....the Fool.... marks the beginning of the journey as an impetuous child..a slave to whims desires and emotions..one who has squandered reason for experience and subjectivity… a fool is green and curious mercurial and eager…. The message of the fool is one of untraditional choices..spurning the establishment… such a one lives in the moment, filled with wonder and inordinate self love…the animal at the fools side signifies his servitude to the whims of his animal desires and his reliance on the lower appetites rather than reason...the sun is at his back since he has turned his back on divine reason and is guided by his own whims....we see the fool is ready to step into the void rather than to walk into the light of faith and reason..and we see much of this happening among the proponents of MEDJUGORJE..who refuse to see reason time and again....

 

. a Fool is not worried about where the journey will end… a fool knows by his or her own subjective hierarchy of self that life is lived in the moment..and that what one feels is true and is the basis for all justified true belief…even though we know that the body itself is fallen and lives and acquires information through faculties which are bent on concuspiscence and so sullied…we see that the fool will trust no one but their own heart and ravenous appetites….once he has made his mind up to turn to himself for certitude rather than God and his Church the devil is indeed not far behind....

 

..The hanged man is unconventional and at odds with traditional notions of good and evil…it is not for nothing that the hanged man is depicted hung upside down as a mockery of the crucifixion..it is also apt since a soul in this state has obverted the faculties which regard Church propriety , reason and prudence...such a soul has surrendered to its own appetites and hearts desires and so feels a counterfeit peace since the struggle seems to be over..he is the antithesis to CHrist..such a one surrenders to the self will not to the will of God and his Church.... his  ideology is hostile to a life lived by carrying the cross of Christ…such a soul seeks its own advantage and falls prey to consequentialism and utilitarianism…indeed the hanged man hangs himself by relying on his own ignorance and mistaking it for truth..the hanged man talks of I believe or I feel beyond what the Church deems to be true through her magisterium and her doctrine...yet this the devil passes off as enlightenment...of course such a person will take tolerance as a virtue without realizing the ramifications of such a choice..in the end tolerance breeds contempt and violence since there is no objective ideal to be patterned upon..chaos ensues…however because the devil is the author of all this counterfeit spirituality we see that under the veneer of piety and spectacle and exploitation of Holy devotions and sacramentals of Holy Church ...in MEDJUGORJE we have elements of the fool the hanged-man and the devil…let us pray for each other that this dark collusion be one day brought into the light of reason…..amen

MEDJUGORJE THE DEVIL YOU KNOW

MEDJUGORJE THE DEVIL YOU KNOW

..from Canon 823 we see that the dissemination of private revelation falls under the discernment of the local Ordinary...in the case of MEDJUGORJE and the recent letter of the CDF we see that the decrees of the local Ordinary are still enforceable...

Can. 823§1In order to safeguard the integrity of faith and morals, pastors of the Church have the duty and the right to ensure that in writings or in the use of the means of social communication there should be noilleffecton the faithand moralsof Christ'sfaithful. They also have the duty and the right to demand that where writings of the faithful touch upon matters of faith and morals, these be submitted to their judgement. Moreover, they have the duty and the right to condemn writings which harm true faith or good morals.

§2 For Christ's faithful entrusted to their care, the duty and the right mentioned in §1 belong to the Bishops, both as individuals and in particular councils or Episcopal Conferences; for the whole people of God, they belong to the supreme authority in the Church

..so we see that the duty of the dissemination of any information emanating out of MEDJUGORJE falls on the authority of the Bishop until the Vatican makes a definitive ruling...

...however from the current CDF letter we see that the Vatican has sided with the Episcopal conference the Bishops of Zadar stating nothing supernatural in regards visions can be said to be occurring....this letter does not speak about the supernaturality of apparitions it only speaks of the CDF studying certain doctrinal and disciplinary anomalies associated with MEDJUGORJE...meaning it has already been established by the Zadar commission that nothing supernatural is happening and that based on the CDF study MEDJUGORJE may indeed be condemned ergo as not worthy of belief....

here is a link to the letter.....

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/cdf-bars-participation-in-events-assuming-truth-of-medjugorje/

..at the place of MEDJUGORJE we have a spirit of contention and credulous anxiety...if truth can be defined as the end of inquiry and it follows that the devil himself is an enemy of truth..we see that the devil himself will push for incessant scrupulosity and endless questioning...a battle of anxiety and curiosity against certitude and calm...the spiritual battle....we are told by many adherents to the messages at MEDJUGORJE that the study continues and that the Church has not made a pronouncement..indeed this is a spirit of rebellion since the Church itself has said nothing supernatural can be maintained regarding the manifestation of providential wraiths (holy apparitions)...indeed the most recent letter published by the CDF has exhorted the faithful not to participate in any public celebrations in Churches or otherwise which presuppose the authenticity of apparitions..such gatherings would indeed foster scandal and be seen as an affront to Christ’s magisterium (the Bishops of medjugorje)...

..indeed some adherents to MEDJUGORJE tell us nothing can be done until the visions cease however this is not the case since the false visionary Montanus who led the poisonous charismatic sect of the Montanists was condemned by the authoritative Ordinary (bishop) while the spectacles were alleged still occurring...

.....as well we are told by some proponents that Ivan the seer is not banned from parishes in which he has his apparitions..used intentionally this is a sly fallacy of logic know as amphiboly (ambiguous use of grammar and syntax)...of course Ivan is not banned from parishes in which he has apparitions he is free to go to any parish and have an apparition in his home if he wishes..however he cannot do this in public or in gatherings and by so doing spread these apparitions as authentic manifestations of the mother of God...by saying Ivan is banned there is a veiled jab at the magisterium of the Church which is implied..one takes away from this statement that the Church is a many tendrilled theocratic hegemony led by a medieval despot with opprobriative organs everywhere intent on censuring and policing..the opposite is true...the Church is the protector of truth and a bastion of charity...the Church in its magisterium is the personification of the Good Shepherd...amen