MEDJUGORJE UPDATE: CLUB MED

MEDJUGORJE: SPIRITUAL HEDONISM

CLUB MED

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 ....Ethical hedonism is the idea that all people have the right to do everything in their power to achieve the greatest amount of pleasure possible to them. It is also the idea that every person's pleasure should far surpass their amount of pain. Ethical hedonism is said to have been started by a student of Socrates, Aristippus of Cyrene. He held the idea that pleasure is the highest good....

 

 

...indeed what one sees happening at MEDJUGORJE is a spiritual vacation resort...if one peruses  the internet one can see the commercialization and the vacation resort mentality at work in MEDJUGORJE...there are pilgrim packages complete with bus and tour guide and visits to the SEERS homes all complete with meals and hotels...indeed all the while perfectly legitimate church approved apparitions such as our Lady of BANNEUX or our Lady of Sorrows in KIBEHO RWANDA have suffered...indeed all the attention being squandered in MEDJUGORJE is casting a shadow on recognized apparitions...

 

..indeed people come with an errant notion that when they hear the words..lift your hearts up to the Lord..they believe in a literal way that God is in the sky..this is a lack of spiritual formation or catechesis without the teaching of the church people fall into error...so they look up..however God is everywhere since he is omnipresent..to lift one’s heart up would mean to walk in a righteous manner abiding by the upright laws of God...it does not mean to look up in the sky for God...however people persist in folly and search for signs and wonders and so fall into a spiritual hedonism which perverts charity and undermines the precepts of the Church of Christ....

if we embrace God within us we shall rise up above ourselves and admonishing our own will find the true way of love ..through the will of God and his Church....

 

...the lusting for signs and wonders at MEDJUGORJE has adherents to the messages going on prolonged flights of fancy and detouring from reality in effect...what we see in MEDJUGORJE is a subversion of the proper pilgrimage where the pilgrim offering veneration to the church and her saints places their petitions along with their sacrifices at the foot of the cross in unity and through filiation of the one true church and its magisterium....

 

Here we have some adherent’s

 messages concerning their visit...

 

                                 Anonymous said...

“I have been to Medjugorje and would rather go there on vacation then Hawaii or Cancun or any other place. There are Holy Masses many times a day, the community rosary is very powerful and Evening Adoration is awesome. If there is an apparition I do not fight the Italian crowds to be present. All I know is it is a very prayerful place and until the vatican condemns them I will continue to go. 45.00 a night for hospitality and food is a deal....and there is good beer and wine and awesome people, including priests and bishops from all over the world. The visionaries are very humble and the fact that some say they live extravagant lives are wrong(the ones in Medjugorje) Poor Mirjana is like a prisoner is her own modest home...she is a simple girl. If it was false why would anyone choose a life like that? Of course not for money...she could never even enjoy it...she doesnt go on vacation or buy lavish things. I believe some people are jealous. We have so called catholic converts running the parish circuit charging 2000/hr. I would question some of their motives---and they are in the states. “

 

....it is good to hear that beer is cheap..but indeed it is a scandal that priests and bishops may be personally ratifying the phenonmenon as being imbued with a supernatural character....apart from providing pastoral care to pilgrims the  presence of religious should not be taken as surety of the genuine nature of the spectacle....

 

 

Anonymous Pilgrim said

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A year has elapsed since I last went to Medjugorje. And how I miss this place every day since the day I came home. To me it is the safest place on Earth. Can anyone imagine a young lady climbing those rocky hills alone and yet coming back safe and sound. Not raped nor robbed. What would have happened if I have done the same somewhere else in this world? In certain countries people can even be robbed when they come out of their house to dispose off the garbage. Once you accidentally dropped your wallet you won't see it again for sure and this is happening everywhere in this world. In Medjugorje I was surprised when the priest announced during mass at St' james Church asking the pilgrim who had lost his wallet to claim it from him. Obviously someone had picked up the wallet and given it to the priest. The honesty of the people of this place is really something laudable in itself. Keep up your good name, Medjugorje!”

 

.it is good to hear that no-one is getting physically accosted while they take out the garbage in MEDJUGORJE..but I am sure the pleasant hosts of the resorts take care of that for the pilgrims...

 

 

Anonymous Travel agent said:

 

“The visionaries in Medjugorje tell us that no one goes to Medjugorje by accident. We are called individually by Our Lady. What an awesome thought! If you feel called to go to Medjugorje then answer Our Lady's invitation! Traveling to Medjugorje is truly a life changing experience!”

 

…Oh really?...Our Lady is indeed according to the visionaries completely unaware that the local Bishop in good standing has personally forbidden pilgrimages to MEDJUGORJE…well this is indeed interesting…I suppose OUR Lady is calling the faithful to be disobedient to the Bishop..????

 

 

..basically what we have at MEDJUGORJE is people worshipping themselves and their own notions and inclinations about what God is..it is emotionalism and hedonistic in nature..it is a worship of the Golden calf..power, money and unchaste desire…..chastity itself as a virtue guards all the virtues..it is not associated strictly with concuspiscence(sex)...if one is chaste they are not complacent and they are meticulous about all their habits...regular examination of the interior state yields tremendous fruit and helps aid a soul on the journey of the way of the cross...since the will is not subjecting itself to God by way of the local Ordinary we have the people worshipping idols..in effect we have people worshipping THEMSELVES…this is why at MEDJUGORJE people neglect charity since they believe they are number one so they need not try harder to excel in the spiritual journey..indeed they have no notion that it is a journey…

 

….Pray for us all- amen

MEDJUGORJE: THE MESSAGE

MEDJUGORJE IS THE OPIUM OF THE MASSES

 

 

.when we have a dependence of sorts based on apparitions and visions...we see people falling victim to a gross and unseemly spirituality...just as with a substance dependency users spend copius amounts of money, spend a great deal of time and energy on the attraction, and become angry and indignant when a loved one attempts to warn them of impending disaster..this is a trap of pride which is completely set up by the devil to separate the faithful from the flock...people fall away from the church and the true way of the cross and enter into pipe dreams and fantastic parlour tricks and imaginative sublimations...people fall asleep on the couch of their desire to be with God and lose scope of their obligations in the active life...they pray and fast and go to church however they do not engage in acts of charity since they are comfortable and spiritually reclined in fantasty....

 

 

 

..the apparitions themselves become a drug and a dependent mentality arises..the seers themselves function as the dealer and provide the goods ...an outlet whereby people may escape from reality...this is a subversion of charity... as Jesus himself said...

 

{25:35} For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in:
{25:36} Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.
{25:37} Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry and fed thee: thirsty and gave thee drink?
{25:38} Or when did we see thee a stranger and took thee in? Or naked and covered thee?
{25:39} Or when did we see thee sick or in prison and came to thee?
{25:40} And the king answering shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
{25:41} Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels.
{25:42} For I was hungry and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink.
{25:43} I was a stranger and you took me not in: naked and you covered me not: sick and in prison and you did not visit me.
{25:44} Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to thee?
{25:45} Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen: I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me

 

-Douay Rheims Matthew 25:35-45

 

...indeed once a dependent state is setup within a believer this adherent relies more and more upon the messages themselves..they become lost to those around them and fall into a caul or a cocoon  of forgetfulness.. they are slaves to their holy dreams and aspirations and so they love only themselves  since they want to possess God without understanding the necessity of community..however God lives inside our neighbor and service to our neighbor is how one can attain heaven…as Jesus said love one another as I have loved you…they want to live with the angels so to speak and lose touch with their neighbor…. This is greedy spirituality and it leads to ruin and desolation…and this is the type of spirituality the devil loves the most….what we have is people chasing the dragon so to speak….they keep travelling to MEDJUGORJE so that they can attain that first high they received when they were converted to this counterfeit path of spirituality..it is in essence chasing the dragons tail….

 

as it says in scripture the tail of the dragon pulled down a third of the stars from heaven..the stars here are symbolic of the faithful and even priests and religious…

 

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son   

 

-Revelation 12:4

 

…indeed it is said by many wise spiritual advisors of the middle ages that the devil is industrious in manufacturing false signs and spiritual sweetness…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Moreover, these apparitions are amongst the most dangerous instruments

   of self deception. "Ofttimes," he says of those who deliberately seek

   for revelations, "the devil feigneth quaint sounds in their ears,

   quaint lights and shining in their eyes, and wonderful smells in their

   noses: and all is but falsehood." Hence it often happens to those who

   give themselves up to such experiences, that "fast after such a false

   feeling, cometh a false knowing in the Fiend's school: . . . for I tell

   thee truly, that the devil hath his contemplatives, as God hath His."

   Real spiritual illumination, he thinks, seldom comes by way of these

   psycho-sensual automatism "into the body by the windows of our wits."

   It springs up within the soul in "abundance of ghostly gladness." With

   so great an authority it comes, bringing with it such wonder and such

   love, that "he that feeleth it may not have it suspect." But all other

   abnormal experiences--"comforts, sounds and gladness, and sweetness,

   that come from without suddenly"--should be set aside, as more often

   resulting in frenzies and feebleness of spirit than in genuine increase

   of "ghostly strength."

 

-Anonymous Carthusian Monk 1400 circa

 ...let us all examine ourselves with a recollected spirit to see if we have offered the threads of our will to the master of the loom so that by the shuttle of unity he might weave a tapestry of one true faith ..the mantle which will comfort us in eternity...amen

MEDJUGORJE: THE MESSAGE...TOIL & TROUBLE

MEDJUGORJE: THE MESSAGE...TOIL & TROUBLE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.”

-3 Witches Macbeth(William Shakespeare)

 

 

 

 

 

 

…because of the lack of obedience to rightful authority at MEDJUGORJE we have instruments which are out of tune…if obedience is the tuning fork for all the other virtues…as padre pio said…

 

“No Obedience no Virtue, no Virtue no Good, no Good no God”

-Padre Pio

 

we see that the adherents to the messages are not playing a delightful song on the ten stringed lyre of the soul..if the ten strings be the virtues necessary to keep one in sanctified grace we see we have a problem…

 

Give praise to the Lord on the harp; sing to him with the psaltery, the instrument of ten strings

-Psalm 32: 2

 

..now without obedience we do not have unison…in tonal music there is an arrangement of seven tones …we are familiar with the notes of the scale…well if one note is off then we have dystonic out of tune music…not pleasing to the ear…hence we have discord and this is the opposite of peace and conformity....so we see how the message of MEDJUGORJE is contradicting itself once again…

 

….so we have the double toil of crossing back over the path to grace again and again..since every time one visits Eucharist with an interior desire to be united to the mystical body of Christ they betray their disposition by not loving Christ in his magisterium and so they must start over and over again until hopefully one day these adherents will get it right…through a proper examination of conscience….and so the toil of garnering grace is double and double and doubled back upon itself…in effect it is a dog chasing its tail….one never progresses in grace…they become stuck in MEDJUGORJE and are a slave to the messages….

 

….indeed we have the fire of desire burning within many adherents..however a desire without a reason to guide it (as we are told by John of Cross)…is a blind desire which will burn and singe our soul and defile it since this fire of desire can never be slaked…in effect the more one desires to be like God and to be safely in heaven without having to carry the cross the more these desires overcome a person and the more they are inclined to gross public displays of outward piety and judgement of others…as a prelate watching over others such a person looks for the defects of others since they believe themselves to be touched by God and like God and so they are already in heaven so to speak..this is only a deception of the devil since this person is not using reason…they are only led by emotion and feeling…it is similar to a fire in an oven or a camp fire if one does not tend to the fire with a mind or a reason then the fire burns out of control…..people mistake for the fire of the Holy Spirit..indeed it is pride and unbridaled desire....

 

……indeed we have the cauldron symbolic of the body all boiling with desires unchecked…the fire of zeal overtaking reasoned discernment..so we have presumption overtaking faith…and we have people searching out fleshly feelings and warmth and condolence..indeed how far has this taken a soul away from the true cross of Christ?.....one wonders

 

..indeed we are told as long as people are praying then what harm can be done?...well protestants also pray and look what that has done to the unity of the one true church?....consequentialism is not a justification for complacency and pride….

 

..because people are blinded with pride they do not see the trouble ahead…since people are blinded by lusting for favours and consolations and solely wrapt within…they do not see the harm this is doing to the unity of the church…they do not see the bystanders who are witnessing this spectacle from different perspectives…in effect what an outsider sees is spirit chasing…

 

Looking for specters and phantasms appearing out of nowhere…indeed what the apparition chasing has done has made the catholic church more of a laughingstock than anything else….

 

..if one finds themselves converting over their belief in false visions they should consider themselves lucky….take the money and run so to speak…however do not go to MEDJUGORJE expecting truth from these SEERS…indeed the spirit of Mary occurs anywhere her psalter is prayed …Mary is also right next to her son at the consecration of mass where the victim is immolated and oblated..Mary never leaves Christ’s side…however to say that Mary is appearing through a group of disobedient renegades which indeed is an opinion directly in defiance of two successive heirs to apostolic tradition..well then it makes one weep…swallow your pride it is not poison….and extricate yourself from the boiling cauldron of your emotion and desire…Jesus taught balance in life…since the devil was imbalanced he finds himself in an inordinately bad condition…if a soul is out of balance it is the same as a body that is out of balance it gets sick…a body is disturbed by imbalance in humours homeostatic mechanisms cannot buffer the inclemency and sickness ensues  and a soul becomes disturbed by its desires which are unchecked...thus such a soul becomes susceptible to the snares of the devil...

 

…indeed Jesus was overcome with zeal for his father’s house..however we are not Jesus..Jesus was perfectly balanced in virtue..there is a great difference…too much zeal without prudence...burgeons into fanaticism..after years of study and practice on the road of sanctity we may one day attain divine union however until then we should rely on good bishops which the Vatican has placed out of charity and justice for all to maintain order and to teach the true paths to God..indeed if we are told to sin then we are not to obey however…do not let common sense and fear cloud our intellect… be ever vigilant and have faith in the Lord and his Church to guide us..amen

MEDJUGORJE: THE MESSAGE PSALM 22

                             MEDJUGORJE THE MESSAGE: The Lord is NOT my SHEPHERD?
                                                                        

                                                                                     

                                                                   PSALM 22 (23 KJV)

                                                                         
                                 Dominus regit me. God's spiritual benefits to faithful souls.

[1] A psalm for David. The Lord ruleth me: and I shall want nothing. [2] He hath set me in a place of pasture. He hath brought me up, on the water of refreshment: [3] He hath converted my soul. He hath led me on the paths of justice, for his own name' s sake. [4] For though I should walk in the midst of the shadow of death, I will fear no evils, for thou art with me. Thy rod and thy staff, they have comforted me. [5] Thou hast prepared a table before me against them that afflict me. Thou hast anointed my head with oil; and my chalice which inebriateth me, how goodly is it!

[1] Ruleth me: In Hebrew, Is my shepherd, viz., to feed, guide, and govern me.

[6] And thy mercy will follow me all the days of my life. And that I may dwell in the house of the Lord unto length of days
                                                             

                                                                 
 .....now at MEDJUGORJE we see the Lord has not left us with a Shepherd...it follows we are in want..in want of justice in want of unity in want of truth...since we are told by the advocates of the visions that the local ordinary is not competent...so the sheep are scattered so to speak...if one is to wait for a ruling from the Vatican then in the meantime we see that Jesus has left us orphans to fend for ourselves...now this implies that God who is omniscient has erred in judgement....it means that this local ordinary in good standing has some defect which makes him delinquent of reason or wisdom or discernment....we are told that the Vatican itself has made a mistake...through the appointment of two successive bishops...indeed the holy spirit has picked the wrong person to be bishop of Mostar....the spirit has erred twice...so by association the holy spirit is incompetent..since it is the holy spirit who speaks through the office of bishop who is not promoting sin...
                                                             

                                                   

““The Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you everything, and remind you of all that I have said to you …

“When the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own, but will speak whatever He hears, and He will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, because He will take what is mine and declare it to you.” (John 14 and 16).

Since that first Pentecost, the Spirit has been with the Church of Jesus in many ways, but one of the most concrete ways in which we see the Holy Spirit at work is through the ministry of bishops.

Bishops are successors of the Apostles, upon whom the Spirit first fell like tongues of flame. Their task, indeed my task, is to do something of that which Jesus said the Spirit would do in His Church: to live with and among God’s people, to teach them everything that Jesus taught, and to lead them into all truth”.....

-Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne

 

                                                                      

                                                        ...now God has also set those people who abide by his shepherds into a place of pasture which is within the sheepfold( the Church)...either we are in this church spiritually and substantially conjoined to the bosom of the church through the sacraments under supervision of the bishops themselves....or we are only in this church in a physical sense..whereby we show up and talk the talk but do not walk the walk... we do not live in love since we do not respect rightfully appointed heirs to the apostles....we do not aspire for justice since we are guiding our brothers and sisters by our own reason and not through the church...indeed we open ourselves to the possibility of falling into a pit...

...the rod and the staff of God are his justice and his word..and this staff also alludes to the staff of the bishop or his crozier (Pastoral Staff)...so we see we can have no comfort without the staff of the bishop..this symbolizes justice and the allegiance to every word of God as it proceeds from his mouth (intellect) through the bible and customs edicts and traditions of the church....

..to say as i have heard that the Vatican supersedes the local bishop is nonsense since we are then still left without a decision..in the mean time we are unprotected from error....we are left to ourselves to decide..indeed this is not the catholic church..it is Unitarianism..a heresy

                                                                               

                                                                         

..indeed God is naturally present to every created thing in every way irregardless of location..God is also gracefully present in accordance to a person’s interior disposition...God is also attentively present to those who call on him by order of his will...Supremely God is present in the order of his Son (Jesus)..and finally God is mystically present through his universal church which guards the earth from the gates of hell...and so we see that in MEDJUGORJE God is not actively present or mystically present through his church and his heir the local bishop of Mostar who is indeed incompetent as we are told by the advocates of MEDJUGORJE....in MEDJUGORJE we are not guarded from the gates of hell because we are not sure according to the advocates of MEDJUGORJE as to what the church’s stance is...indeed by them we are told the church has sanctioned pilgrimages and no decision has been made however this is a case of the church contradicting itself through a magisterial miscommunication....

...the table God has prepared is the banquet feast of the mystical wedding in heaven which occurs after death and at the final judgement when the church is finally wed to her mystical groom ..this is achieved through obedience to the grooms wishes......the table can also be considered to be the last supper table where Jesus sat and ate with his disciples the first apostles..and so the table prepared for us in a spiritual sense is one in which we are partakers of the spirit of the succession of the apostles..at this table we will be provided with the food of the spirit which will protect us from those who want to afflict us  (sins and temptations) ...on the contrary at MEDJUGORJE our table will be overturned since Jesus will use our sins as our chastisement against us...

....  in MEDJUGORJE we see the table prepared as described in scripture...

 

                                                                      

14 In the temple precincts he came upon merchants selling oxen, sheep and doves, and moneychangers seated at tables. 15 And when he had made a kind of whip from cords, he drove everyone, including sheep and oxen, out of the temple, swept away the gold of the money changers, and knocked over their tables. 16 To those selling doves he said, “Get Out of here! And stop making my Father’s house into a marketplace.” 17 His disciples then remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house consumes me.”....John 2:14-17
 

Thomas Aquinas tells us in his commentary of the Gospel of St. John...

“383 This can be understood mystically in three ways. First of all, the merchants signify those who sell or buy the things of the Church: for the oxen, sheep and doves signify the spiritual goods of the Church and the things connected with them. These goods have been consecrated and authenticated by the teachings of the apostles and doctors, signified by the oxen: “When there is an abundant harvest the strength of the ox is evident” (Prv 14:4); and by the blood of the martyrs, who are signified by the sheep: so it is said for them: “We are regarded as sheep for the slaughter” (Rom 8:36): and by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, signified by the doves, for as stated above, the Holy Spirit appeared in the form of a dove. Therefore, those who presume to sell the spiritual goods of the Church and the goods connected with them are selling the teachings of the apostles, the blood of the martyrs, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit”….and he continues…

“He drives the men out with a whip; and this is what he says, when he had made a kind of whip from cords. This is something that could be done only by divine power. For as Origen says, the divine power of Jesus was as able, when he willed, to quench the swelling anger of men as to still the storms of minds: “The Lord brings to nought the thoughts of men” (Ps 32:10). He makes the whip from cords because, as Augustine says, it is from our own sins that he forms the matter with which he punishes us: for a series of sins, in which sins are added to sins, is called a cord: “He is bound fast by the cords of his own sins” (Prv 5:22); “Woe to you who haul wickedness with cords” (Is 5:18). Then, just as he drove the merchants from the temple, so he swept away the gold of the moneychangers and knocked over their tables”

..Jesus will come upon the merchants or in this case the SEERS of MEDJUGORJE and overturn their table and banish them(the edict of the Bishop of Mostar) ...these SEERSwho are selling oxen(obedience) the ox is an obedient animal, sheep (the faithful and the meek) to which the seers of MEDJUGORJE are trying to mislead, and doves (the symbol of peace and the holy spirit) by saying the SEERS themselves are over the authority of the local ordinary who we are told is incompetent????....the SEERS usurp the church and are a new vessel of the Holy Spirit....indeed this is interesting..we are told the Paraclete dwells substantially inside the church and works through its organs we as christians are moved by its fruits...since the SEERS have become  a new authority we see something novel happening.... because of this usurping of the HOLY SPIRIT...we see sins which are directly against the HOLY SPIRIT....PRESUMPTION, OBSTINANCY, RESISTING THE KNOWN TRUTH, ENVY OF AUTHORITY  OR ANOTHER'S SPIRITUAL WELFARE(the local bishop)....

....the  chalice which inebriates can be understood in a physical way as the chalice of the mass..or it is the cup of obedience as Jesus in his passion mentioned..Lord please take this cup from me...however in MEDJUGORJE we have no cup of obedience..and so we have no inebriation with virtue...the reason is not inebriated with faith in the creeds and traditions of the true church...the reason is instead inebriated by its own fantasy since advocates are not following rightful authority...the cup is empty of the spirit of unity and filled with the beautiful poison of inordinate self-love in dereliction of the duty to act from due diligence and  prudence....

                                                                    

 

..indeed much more can be said..let us all examine ourselves through a recollected spirit so that we do not become overzealous and lose scope of our neighbour but ending up in the snare of pandering to our self-serving needs and wants.....amen