MEDJUGORJE COMMISSION NEUTRAL INSIDER REPORTS: not false...

Medjugorje Phenomenon not false....

 

[figurative personification of the Phenomenon]

 

...not false..but spiritually AMORAL

 

 

......amen

 

MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS DECLARES SHRINE STATUS???

MEDJUGORJE IS NOT AN OFFICIAL SHRINE

 

..contrary to an aberrant notion being spread in public forums MEDJUGORJE is not an official shrine...contrary to the mind of a misinformed body of the faithful Medjugorje is not a shrine by Default....

 

.. the official stance of the Church and Pope Francis himself is the Zadar Declaration..it cannot be ascertained that the Church is dealing with a supernatural phenomenon at MEDJUGORJE...yet there is a persistent appeal to public credulity whereby many adherents  splinter artifacts of the Truth in an attempt to fabricate scenarios based on speculation and by so doing pawn such a manipulation of credibility into an official endorsement of the Church...

 

..nowhere in the annals of the Church has MEDJUGORJE officially been declared a SHRINE...

 

...indeed many sites which are not Church sanctioned grasp at this statement made in 1993 and try to purloin the relevance and change this public statement into an official Church Declaration...

 

“We bishops, after a three-year-long commission study accept Medjugorje as a holy place, as a shrine. This means that we have nothing against it if someone venerates the Mother of God in a manner also in agreement with the teaching and belief of the Church…” 

 

..this quote was published in Glas Koncila as an article in 1993 and the commission referred to is the Zadar Commission...there is no context given..as well many assume this is the result of another Commission however there was no other commission at this time...and so this statement refers to the Zadar Commission..as is well known the Zadar Commission and the Bishop's Conference did not dedicate a shrine to the Virgin at this time...indeed nowhere in the Church has Medjugorje been named a Shrine...

 

...the statement maintains that the Bishops accept Medjugorje as a shrine if someone venerates the Mother of God in a manner in AGREEMENT with the Church...to state that the Mother of God is actually appearing in Medjugorje is NOT venerating Mary in agreement with the beliefs of the Church..and of course this is happening in Medjugorje...

 

..and so if one is assuming Mary the Mother of God is appearing in Medjugorje then the Bishops cannot consider Medjugorje a Holy place or a shrine since the veneration runs inimical to the beliefs of the Church.... 

..since the Zadar Declaration is an official belief of the Church it must be accepted as a directive made from the mind of the Church..to go against this would be unreasonable & imprudent..possibly placing one's salvation in jeopardy.....

..as well according to Canon 1231...

Can. 1231 For a shrine to be called a national shrine, the conference of bishops must give its approval; for it to be called an international shrine, the approval of the Holy See is required.

..since the Bishops Conference of Zadar have stated nothing supernatural can be ascertained as well as never declaring a shrine here at medjugorje we can see that according to Canon 1231 we need the approval of the Bishops to start the process....subsequently the Holy See proceeds to make Medjugorje an International shrine..however in order for Medjugorje to be an international shrine it must be a national one first..since what is aggregate of the entire must summarily comprise every succesive  parcel of the whole...we cannot have an international shrine if we do not have a national shrine first..and so the Pope will not make Medjugorje an international shrine since the Bishops Conference have not allowed the first contingent step to occur in the process...sadly much misinformation is disseminated in public forums leading the body of the faithful into great confusion and scandal...let us all examine ourselves in a spirit of studious recollection so that we may find unity in one discernment through the Church .....amen

MEDJUGORJE THE FIRST SECRET

Medjugorje: THE SECRET

THE SECRET OF MEDJUGORJE

...[ DID YOU KNOW THE VIRGIN MARY NEVER APPEARED IN MEDJUGORJE?? ]...

MEDJUGORJE SECRETS

Medjugorje: THE SECRET

 

THE SECRET OF MEDJUGORJE

 

...[ DID YOU KNOW THE VIRGIN MARY NEVER APPEARED IN MEDJUGORJE?? ]...

 

Pope Francis meets Cardinal Ruini Medjugorje Commission

Pope Francis meets Cardinal Ruini

 

 

 

......*SIGH*.....

 

 

 

......*SIGH*....

 

.....amen

 

MEDJUGORJE VERDICT: IMMINENT

MEDJUGORJE VATICAN VERDICT: IMMINENT

 

 

 

NOT SUPERNATURAL

MEDJUGORJE COMMISSION HAS FINISHED ITS WORK OFFICIALLY

MEDJUGORJE COMMISSION HAS FINISHED ITS WORK OFFICIALLY

..CARDINAL PULJIC says he is Fed Up with the MEDJUGORJE study..

..if one puts two and two together and adds the recent comments of the POPE who tells us that Mary is not a post mistress sending messages everyday one should be able to mark the course of the current leading the  Barque of Peter  scudding ahead the gale of another temporal spiritual tempest( Medjugorje)...

....the duly authorized Agents of God on this matter are giving us hints regarding the phenomenon at Medjugorje...The good Cardinal is telling us that he is tired of beating a dead horse..if the outcome was favourable and positive then the good Cardinal would be quite honoured to be a part of Church history however the reverse is true..in fact Medjugorje is a part of Church infamy....he is repelled by what is not part of the bosom of the Church..as Pope Eugene has said in the past...

" The Church Teaches Ex Cathedra: "The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews, and heretics, and schismatics, can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire "which was prepared for the devil, and his angels," (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this Ecclesiastical Body, that only those remaining within this unity can profit from the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsdeeds, and other works of Christian piety and duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441) "

..this being a tenet of the universal and extraordinary magisterium is binding..however since those who through no fault of their own adhere to another religion but who seek God with a sincere heart and or perfect contrition may not be precluded we should note that schismatics, those who have deliberately cut themselves off from the temporal head of the Church the Pope by ignoring seminal canons (ie 823) and who willfully disobey CDF decrees and local Ordinarial directives may be in grave danger of fracture from the bosom of the Church....

..ignorance is no excuse and is removable if through reasonable diligence a conscientious person had shown sincere resolve & deliberation in seeking answers to matters which regarded the fate of one's eternal salvation according to their intellectual capacity and or conditioned customs and available resources...however if through innocent ignorance one was not baptised but would have been baptized had they known then such a desire would not disregard one from salvation (CC1260)

1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

..the Vatican Radio has also recently stated that the commission of Medjugorje has sent its findings to the CDF and Pope..

2014-01-18 Vatican Radio

(Vatican Radio) The Director of the Holy See Press Office, Fr. Federico Lombardi, confirmed on Saturday that the international commission investigating the events in Medjugorje held its last meeting on 17 January. The commission, created by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is presided by Cardinal Camillo Ruini.

The commission has reportedly completed its work and will submit the outcomes of its study to the Congregation.

....amen

MEDJUGORJE BREAKING NEWS: CARDINAL PULJIC FED UP!!

MEDJUGORJE BREAKING NEWS: Cardinal Puljic Fed Up!!

 

..CARDINAL PULJIC says he is Fed Up with the MEDJUGORJE study..

 

 

..if one puts two and two together and adds the recent comments of the POPE who tells us that Mary is not a post mistress sending messages everyday one should get the gist of the current marking the Barque of Peter...

 

....the duly authorized Agents of God on this matter are giving us hints regarding the phenomenon at Medjugorje...The good Cardinal is telling us that he is tired of beating a dead horse..if the outcome was favourable and positive then the good Cardinal would be quite honoured to be a part of Church history however the reverse is true..in fact Medjugorje is a part of Church infamy....he is repelled by what is not part of the bosom of the Church..as Pope Eugene has said in the past...

 

" The Church Teaches Ex Cathedra: "The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews, and heretics, and schismatics, can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire "which was prepared for the devil, and his angels," (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this Ecclesiastical Body, that only those remaining within this unity can profit from the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsdeeds, and other works of Christian piety and duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441) "

 

..this being a tenet of the universal and extraordinary magisterium is binding..however since those who through no fault of their own adhere to another religion but who seek God with a sincere heart and or perfect contrition may not be precluded we should note that schismatics, those who have deliberately cut themselves off from the temporal head of the Church the Pope by ignoring seminal canons (ie  823) and who willfully disobey CDF decrees and local Ordinarial directives may be in grave danger of fracture from the bosom of the Church....

 

..ignorance is no excuse and is removable if through reasonable diligence a conscientious person had shown sincere resolve & deliberation in seeking answers to matters which regarded the fate of one's eternal salvation according to their intellectual capacity and or conditioned customs and available resources...however if through innocent ignorance one was not baptised but would have been baptized had they known then such a desire would not disregard one from salvation (CC1260)

 

1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

 

..the Vatican Radio has also recently stated that the commission of Medjugorje has sent its findings to the CDF and Pope..

 

 

2014-01-18 Vatican Radio

(Vatican Radio) The Director of the Holy See Press Office, Fr. Federico Lombardi, confirmed on Saturday that the international commission investigating the events in Medjugorje held its last meeting on 17 January. The commission, created by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is presided by Cardinal Camillo Ruini.

The commission has reportedly completed its work and will submit the outcomes of its study to the Congregation.

....amen 

MEDJUGORJE RECENT NEWS: THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

Medjugorje Recent News: THE SKY IS FALLING

 

..at MEDJUGORJE many adherents claim that they have seen with their own eyes and heard with their own ears and so there can be no question as to the veracity of the claims of the seers...gleaning truth from purely empiric means is subverting the absolute truths and doctrines of the Church..since empiricism tells us our mind is a tablua rasa (blank slate) when we are born and that all knowledge we gain comes through experience of the senses....empiricism as a reliable source of truth fails since the concept itself hinges on a presupposition that our senses are reliable sources of investigation..however another problem arises...how can we understand anything at all without consciousness, sapience, memory and imagination...all these operations of the being of humans do not come from experience they are innate..to know that one is thinking at all is not an empirical form of knowledge..and so empiricism on its own does not furnish us with the full source of truth..we need an objective absolute source which does not change and of course this is God and the revelations we have received as a deposit of faith which never changes...in fact how can one imagine something that has never been experienced? if empiricism is valid..of course to imagine a different shade of blue is possible artists do it all the time...now if such a shade has never existed in reality but only as a universal in the eternal mind of God how can we know it if empiricism is valid???...

 

and so those individuals who claim Medjugorje the Phenomenon is true simply because they have seen or heard are quite deceived..since the Church itself officially is at variance with this position...

 

..as Jesus used parables and small stories to illustrate his truths let us use the analogy of Chicken Little and the folktale of the SKY IS FALLING to illustrate the dangers of trusting too much in one's own subjective experience...

 

 

Did you ever hear of Chicken Little, how she

disturbed a whole neighborhood by her foolish
alarm?

Well, Chicken Little was running about in a
gentleman's garden, where she had no business to
be : she ran under a rose-bush, and a leaf fell on her
tail ; so she was dreadfully frightened, and ran away
to Hen Pen.

" O Hen Pen," said she, " the sky is falling ! "
u Why, Chicken Little, how do you know it ? "
" O, I heard it with my ears, I saw it with my eyes,
and part of it fell on my tail." " Come, then," says
Hen Pen, " let us run as fast as we can."

So they ran till they came to Duck Luck. " O
Duck Luck," says Hen Pen, " the sky is falling ! "
" Why, how do you know it ? " says Duck Luck.
14 Chicken Little told me." " Chicken Little, how
do you know it ? " "I heard it with my ears, I
saw it with my eyes, and part of it feD on my tail "
" O, let us run ! " says Duck Luck.

And they went on till they came to Goose Loose.
" O Goose Loose ! " says Duck Luck, " the sky is
falling." " Why, Duck Luck," says Goose Loose,
" how do you know it ? " Says Duck Luck, " Hen
Pen told me." " Hen Pen, how do you know it ? "
" Chicken Little told me." " Chicken Little, how
do you know it ? " " O, I heard it with my ears, I
saw it with my eyes, and part of it fell on my tail ! "
u Run, run ! as fast as you can," says Goose Loose*
And away they went till they came to

Turkey Lurkey. " O Turkey Lurkey ! " says
Goose Loose, " the sky is falling ! " " Why," says
Turkey Lurkey, " Goose Loose, how do you know
it ? " Says Goose Loose, " Duck Luck told me."
" Duck Luck, how do you know it ? " Says Duck
Luck, " Hen Pen told me." " Hen Pen, how do
you know it ? " Says Hen Pen, " Chicken Little
told me." " Chicken Little, how do you know it ? "
" How can I help knowing it ? " says Chicken Lit-
tle ; "I heard it with my ears, I saw it with my eyes,
and part of it fell on my tail ! " " O, come, let us
run ! " says Turkey Lurkey. And away they all
went till they met with

Fox Lox. " O Fox Lox ! " says Turkey Lur-
key, "the sky is falling!" "Who told you?"
says Fox Lox. Says Turkey" Lur key, "Goose
Loose told me." " Goose Loose, who told you?"
" Duck Luck told me." " Duck Luck, who told
you?" "Hen Pen told me." "Hen Pen, who
told you ? " " Chicken Little told me." " Chick-
en Little, how do you know it ? " " O, I heard it
with my ears, 1 saw it with my eyes, and part of it
fell on my tail ! " " Make haste ! " says Fox Lox,
" and all come into my den "

Fox Lox opened the door, and in went Turkey
Lurkey. As she went in, Fox Lox bit off her
head, threw it one way, and the body another.
Then went in Goose Loose. Fox Lox cut off her
head, and threw her in. Then came Duck Luck.
Fox Lox did the same by her. Then came Hen
Pen. Fox Lox bit off her head, and threw it one
way, and the body the other. Then came Chicken
Little. Fox Lox caught hold of her, and eat her
all up, and then finished his supper with the rest,
and all this from the foolish fright of Chicken
Little.

 

..as it says in scripture..we must beware the foxes who nip the vines and  may be able to symbolically confuse our spiritual head which is our faith in the spiritual life...

 

11] For winter is now past, the rain is over and gone. [12] The flowers have appeared in our land, the time of pruning is come: the voice of the turtle is heard in our land: [13] The fig tree hath put forth her green figs: the vines in flower yield their sweet smell. Arise, my love, my beautiful one, and come: [14] My dove in the clefts of the rock, in the hollow places of the wall, shew me thy face, let thy voice sound in my ears: for thy voice is sweet, and thy face comely. [15] Catch us the little foxes that destroy the vines: for our vineyard hath flourished.

[15] Catch us the little foxes: Christ commands his pastors to catch false teachers, by holding forth their fallacy and erroneous doctrine, which like foxes would bite and destroy the vines.

 

..if an individual does not trust the local Bishop in good standing, the CDF or even the Pope with his current advice telling us Mary is not a post mistress sending messages everyday..then we are at the mercy of little devious foxes who do not care for our spiritual integrity..but only seek to further their own agendas while crowding out the appointed Agents of Christ....

....amen

MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS: MARY and Her Sacred Heart

MEDJUGORJE POPE FRANCIS: MARY and Her Sacred Heart

 

 

MARY IS NOT A POST-MISTRESS, RELAYING MESSAGES EVERYDAY

 

 

 

....amen